Well Since everyone else . . . I will too! Boost time??

[Kman Tib]

1,800? Holy I forgot what that feels like haha I agree however. The T-25 will be good for the setup you're planning. It barely flows enough to get out of it's own way, let alone do damage as easily. It will be great for initial setup, tuning, and a few weeks of fun before the boost bug bites and you want more

And that's why I think it's a waste of time and money

[nick124]

Well I already have a t25 waiting to go in so I'll let you know lol

[ki11er90]

@liter.

That is what im planning, get settled in with this turbo, run without a decomp plate for a while. Then when I want more, I will put in the decomp plate, then go up to 12. Then get a bigger turbo and 15.

[2LiterRiceEater]

Although I do agree with Kman about it being a waste, it's not in a way. I mean, replacing a turbo is easy. That is however only if you're switching to another turbo, with the same hotside and oil lines. That way it's unbolt, remove, replace, bold back up, done.

If not, then it's a lot more work. If it's completely different, you would need a new manifold, new o2 housing/downpipe, new oil line fittings, etc.

[ki11er90]

apparently the turbo can hold 15lbs of boost so I really dont need to upgrade the turbo . . . just a new wastegate.

PS

AEM FIC is on the way

Is there a specific Walbro 190 im looking for or are they universal.

[Kman Tib]

@liter.

That is what im planning, get settled in with this turbo, run without a decomp plate for a while. Then when I want more, I will put in the decomp plate, then go up to 12. Then get a bigger turbo and 15.

This is exactly why I say it's a waste of time and money, if you plan to go there then do it with something worth while. You can always turn down boost on a bigger turbo. If you plan to later on put in the decomp plate and up the boost then like I say why not something like a Mitsu TD05 16G or 20G that'll be good for upwards of 20psi+ and you can always turn down the boost while you "get settled in with the turbo". All that back and forth pulling apart, spending and having to redo stuff just doesn't make much sense to me. Plus you get used to how that dinky thing will spool fast then swtch and think man this bigger turbo sucks with lag, why not just get used to the bit of lag to begin with and avoid the back and forth and spending? I just don't see your thinking as efficient planning, no offense just trying to save you some time and cash in the long run. Also bare in mind you can run the 16G (or comparable T3) with no decomp plate to ~15psi with good tuning

15psi on that dinky turbo is not the same as 15psi on a larger turbo - won't flow as much CFM plus with that you would be running out of efficiency and getting more heat soak because it's smaller.

[2LiterRiceEater]

The 20G is a bit overkill. He won't be needing a turbo that can flow 44lbs/min. The lag is completely uneccessary on his setup. I feel a 16G would be best suited from that prespective. Depending on which model 16G, they can be run past 20 PSI, and still be efficient. They spool up relatively quick, not sure about the Beta but on the 4G63 I was seeing full boost of 20 PSI around 3K on a s16G. Which is perfect for the street. It allows for a bit of lag so that you're not constantly in boost trying to switch lanes, yet spools quick enough that you don't have to wait till 4K. They hit hard too, say hello to second gear rolling burnouts.

15psi on that dinky turbo is not the same as 15psi on a larger turbo - won't flow as much CFM plus with that you would be running out of efficiency and getting more heat soak because it's smaller.

+1

I would suggest only using the T-25 as a learning experience if you're going be doing your own setup and tuning, since it is so linear. But be prepared to want more lol. But if you can find a good deal on a 16G go for it. However be prepared, the prices of genuine 16G's skyrocketed, so you will start seeing used 16G's hold their value better.

[ki11er90]

Well, because I like you, I just bought a TD05.

[Kman Tib]

Now you're talking, congrats!

[ki11er90]

doesnt look like it has a built in wastegate so I might go for that turbo header that has the wastegate spot for it instead of the one I was going to buy off the guy on the tiburon forums.

[Kman Tib]

I'd double check first, as far as i know they all come internally gated and should have an actuator. But in regards to the actuator I know the jdm ones are notorious for leaking so giving trouble holding higher boost, mine did when i got it so i just ordered a new one of Ebay, been fine for going on 2 years now.. Not sure if that's the same with the usdm. Also I wouldn't go with that original turbo manifold you posted. I'd get one from Jattus just make sure you have a chat with him so he makes it for your td05 cause I think there's slight differences with them. Or do like i did and get an Evo 8/9 manifold and modify it to fit.

[ki11er90]

Well if it comes internally gated then I will be fine, the manifold im looking at getting off of newtiburon is one from the alpine kits.

[Kman Tib]

Yeah wait and see, I'm sure you have other stuff to gather up anyway.

Info from Dave on another forum about the Alpine manifold

"Stage 0 - TD04-13G
Stage 1 - TD04-15T
Stage 2 - T28 knockoff, not actual Garrett"

He'd be the best man to say if that manifold would be able to work. Man, for the money you were going to end up spending you could just get a nice manifold from Jattus and be all set - no riggings and time wasting modding to make it work and you'll still be spending less in the long run anyway imo and have an awesome looking setup that you can be proud of popping the hood to show off if you want. Or you can be cheap like me and use an Evo 8/9 manifold and modify to fit - you were gonna do quite a bit of work anyway it seems. There's tonns of Evo manifolds on ebay from cheap to really expensive, you'd just need to do some homework and make sure your TD05 will bolt up to it. Mine was from the same car so there was no guess game for me - and my setup is still show off worthy haha

Edit: when I say check to see if it'll bolt up I meant as far as I know the turbo should bolt up to the manifold as long as it's made for a TD05 but there's differences with the actuator on some turbo model/years so that's what I was more thinking in case there could be clearance issues against the block or anything.

[ki11er90]

Its the stage 2, because the guy said it was hooked up to the T28. So ideally, something like this would solve my issues.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TD05-TURBO-T...item256aa576e6



Still curious about the fuel pump, will any Walbro 190 work, are they universal? or am I looking for a specific one for our cars.

[Kman Tib]

Those adapters don't always work, they can make the turbo sit too low to get a proper oil drain done.

As for the fuel pump no not any Walbro 190 pump will work. I'm not sure if the Elantra uses the same pump as the Tib but if so I got the NGM one which in a drop in replacement, got it used and cheap of course Hopefully someone with more experience with the Elantra will chime in.

[MagicMayo]

yes that will work in the elantra...its just a bosch 190lph pump. ive got an airtex 190lph in my elantra now...dropped it in and everything was good to go

[MIKEXD2004]

Hey guys If your looking for a straight bolt up of 9 pounds of boost from a supercharger for the beta2 2.0 engine let me know ..

i will put up a new post in 2 weeks at a great price

[ki11er90]

magic, what is that local shop that can get a downpipe made for me and how much do you think it will cost

[MagicMayo]

its called auto muffler king, on jefferson about a mile or two south of mercury...they may or may not do it for you, but i know they have the ability to do it. they are kind of weird about stuff like this, but its worth a shot. im thinking it would prob run you around $100 more or less cause its a pretty short length. i was going to see if they would do it for me too, so if i get it done first i will let you know...if not thats a different story lol

[ki11er90]

Lets go together and see if we can get a discount :p
I live right by big bethel high school btw

Why have you not posted pics and specs of your car yet