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: RRM strut bar installed



SWortham
07-20-2004, 12:59 AM
This thing made a bigger difference than I expected. I installed it in just a couple minutes, and when I went for a drive I felt an immediate improvement just driving out of the neighborhood cruising at 20 mph. It felt like I had more control over the steering at any speed and the car would tend to respond more predictably with my steering corrections. In other words, the steering response is more precise. It will NOT reduce body roll, but it WILL reduce chassis flex which are two distinctly different things when it comes to handling.

With that said, the 19.2mm Tiburon rear sway bar is still the #1 suspension modification by far. So do that first!

This strut bar just adds a little more to the driving experience. :D

http://www.gldomain.com/elantra/rrm/pict0003_800px.jpg
http://www.gldomain.com/elantra/rrm/pict0009_800px.jpg
(It comes very close to the firewall, but doesn't quite touch)

04 elantra cvvt
07-20-2004, 01:18 AM
Where did you get that? And btw, what CAI do you have?

BlackElantraGT
07-20-2004, 03:53 AM
I've been wanting to get this same strut bar. Thanks for the input on how it feels.

SWortham
07-20-2004, 09:08 AM
Where did you get that?
I got it from www.roadracemotorsports.com



And btw, what CAI do you have?
It's a 2.5" two-piece Accord CAI. I got it from Ebay seller xxfusionxx. I don't know if he's still selling them though.

Jlivan
07-20-2004, 09:36 AM
If you don't mind me asking, how much did that strut bar cost? I am very interested in getting one :)

SWortham
07-20-2004, 09:39 AM
It was $89. They also sell a red one.

04 elantra cvvt
07-20-2004, 09:50 AM
Thanks a lot for the response. Does look like a quality product.

SuperGLS
07-20-2004, 03:59 PM
Damn you Steve... mods mods and more mods. You are making me jealous, since you have the best looking White Elantra now.

I like the look of that bar second to the KDM Tiburon bar.



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SWortham
07-20-2004, 04:22 PM
Damn you Steve... mods mods and more mods. You are making me jealous, since you have the best looking White Elantra now.

lol. Thanks, I think. I'm almost done. There are a few things I need to get done/fixed -- a screwed up front bumper, ECU reprogramming at the dealer, oil change, inspection, install hubcentric rings. Then I'll get clear sidemarkers and tint, and that'll be it. After that, I don't have anymore plans.

04 elantra cvvt
07-20-2004, 07:45 PM
Everybody says, one more, and that'll be it. I used to say that with the Camaro. The only way I was able to achieve that was to sell it. I just gave up on saying that, because nobody ever believed me anyway.

only1db
07-20-2004, 07:54 PM
um....i think i will stick with the mussa...it looks a little stronger

SWortham
07-20-2004, 11:23 PM
It might be stronger... I'm not sure.

Check this out though, if you haven't seen it:

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/images/before.jpg

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/images/after.jpg

NHElantraGT
07-21-2004, 12:13 AM
I love the fact that the guy in the pic has a cig in his mouth. That is what sold me on it. I just ordered mine. No, I really did. :D

04 elantra cvvt
07-21-2004, 01:10 AM
Well that is enough proof for me. Does anyone know what the RPM one is made of?

SWortham
07-21-2004, 09:54 AM
Well that is enough proof for me. Does anyone know what the RPM one is made of?

RRM. It's made of 'titanium metal alloy' - in Arnold's voice. Actually, I don't know, but it feels stronger than aluminum. I'll try the magnet test later today.

04 elantra cvvt
07-21-2004, 10:00 AM
Yeah, if it sticks, I'd be calling them up saying WTF? Oh well, that test is like the K&N demonstration, it makes people believe in the product.

Keyan
07-21-2004, 10:04 AM
That strut bar scares me because it only attaches to one of the bolts on each tower.
Looks like it's about to snap off :/
I'd feel safer it attached to 2 or all 3.

XDGT03
07-21-2004, 10:38 AM
I do not have one of these, I have the SR one which is like the mussa and most every other one. The RRM one is quality through and through according to everyone that has gotten it. It differs in that one the SR and others, you have those bolts on either side of the bar to attach the mounting plates. Thess "joints" are weaknesses. The RRM bar has no such joints, therefore stiffer. As far as the standing on it test, the strength is along the length of the bar not across the top. And along the length of the bar is where it is needed to do the job. That said, I still think the RRM is better.

As to the mounting points, and there only being one of them:

The weakest part of the structure is at the furthest point from both the firewall and the fender. That mounting point would be the stud which it mounts to. And there is very little chassis flex there. I mean we're talking a couple of mm at most. Those studs can more than handle that kinda stress. Plus remember, under even hard street driving you will barely be able to notice it. Some would say it is all in your mind. I agree until you are pushing past the 90% of the chassis capacity. That is where the benefit comes in. But of course I have the SR and not the RRM, so if Steve says he can feel it with the RRM at 20mph, I'll take his word for it.

SPARTANELANTRA
07-25-2004, 11:52 PM
yeah in my opinion that stand test is :bs: the bar is trying to keep the towers from moving closer or farther away from each other

04 elantra cvvt
07-26-2004, 12:49 AM
Sound to me that a second type of test is needed. A linear one.

SWortham
07-26-2004, 01:28 AM
Sound to me that a second type of test is needed. A linear one.

It's going to be much harder to flex the bar in that direction. The standing test is just a simple way to demonstrate the bar's strength, it's not necessarily the best comparitive demonstration. If RRM was determined to illustrate their point, they would have bought all of the other competing strut bars and done some more ellaborate tests, but I doubt they'll be going through the trouble.

04 elantra cvvt
07-26-2004, 09:45 AM
Really, anything is better than what we have now... nothing. I just like the design of the RPM Bar.

HatchetMan
07-26-2004, 12:26 PM
I have had this bar installed now for several months and I can say it iz tha shizznit. It is far stronger than the Mussa and SR. Nuff said. Check out their website, ask them any question, they're good guys.

jameswing
07-26-2004, 02:30 PM
Round shapes are always stronger than rectangular ones. Just pure laws of Physics & Geometery.


Sound to me that a second type of test is needed. A linear one.

The bent one should still function better. I haver to admit that they picked the least cpable bar to compare with, The joints where the bar attaches to the mounting plate allow it to flex a lot.



That strut bar scares me because it only attaches to one of the bolts on each tower.
Looks like it's about to snap off :/
I'd feel safer it attached to 2 or all 3.

The strut is a solid assembly so it dosen't matter if it's connected to one or all, because that one bolt can't move without affecting all of the other ones. The only movement that could possiably allow is rotational areound it; however, the frame of the car will keep those lined up.

04 elantra cvvt
07-27-2004, 12:48 AM
That's what I was thinking. Once the bar is bolted down, there is no more room for rotational movement. I think it would be a good bar.

BlackElantraGT
07-28-2004, 09:45 PM
yeah in my opinion that stand test is :bs: the bar is trying to keep the towers from moving closer or farther away from each other

I think the test perfectly demonstrates how a strut bar is supposed to work. This is a round bar, so it doesn't matter which way he stood on the thing, it'll still hold the weight pretty well.

The only complaint that I have about the demo pic is that the strut bar he's standing on is not the one for the Elantra/Tiburon. The one he's standing on has two bolting points, which makes me believe it was for the Evo VIII. Also, notice how if you were to bolt that on, the angle would be facing towards your hood. In the Elantra/Tiburon bar, that angle actually faces the firewall. In any case, I don't think it makes much of a difference, the bar is really strong I can vouch for that myself.

I personally went to RRM myself yesterday and purchased their strut tower bar. The guys there seem pretty cool. I even saw the cigarette dude and his partner that he's leaning on in the pic was the one that installed my bar. They charged me $89 out the door and the install was free (it only took a few mins.)

Out of all the "tuners" that we have working on our cars, RRM/RRE probably has the most credability. Just pick up the August 2004 edition of Sport Compact Car (most of you should be familiar with this publication) and there are at least 3 different cars from RRM/RRE. They have the supercharged Tib, 2nd Gen Eclipse GSX, and the Evo VIII that competed in the time attack trials.

SPARTANELANTRA
07-28-2004, 11:34 PM
:iamwithst a "stretch test" is needed

SWortham
07-28-2004, 11:41 PM
:iamwithst a "stretch test" is needed

LOL, geez. It's not going to happen. Unless you're going to do the test yourself, I don't think anyone else is going to go through the trouble.

04 elantra cvvt
07-29-2004, 12:11 AM
Probably not. I say buy the one that you like. That's the only way you'll be happy with the purchase.

BlackElantraGT
07-29-2004, 05:36 AM
I've had the bar for 2 days now and just like Swortham said, the steering is more precise than before. If you're looking to get a strut tower brace, I would definitely recommend this item.

DocRxGLS
07-29-2004, 09:28 AM
I have had my RRM for a couple of months now and really like it. I could tell a difference immediately. Like others have said, steering response is much better. It was more than just subtle to me since I just got the 19.2 mm sway bar on a couple of weeks ago.

SWortham
07-30-2004, 09:36 PM
Well as promised I performed the magnet test on the bar. It must be steel. And I measured it with my dial caliper and the piping came out to .085" thick at .89" diameter.

04 elantra cvvt
07-30-2004, 10:53 PM
Cool... I still like the styling. If it feels good, do it.

KeWLKaT
01-10-2005, 11:21 AM
Yea, ummm, no need to relocate anything? CC, etc... ?



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SWortham
01-10-2005, 11:31 AM
Nope, it clears the cruise control. There were no clearance issues at all.

KeWLKaT
01-10-2005, 01:44 PM
Yes! This solves my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

No describing how happy I am. And they have red! :D

EDIT: Any pics of the red one anywhere?



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HatchetMan
01-10-2005, 01:54 PM
Yes! This solves my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

No describing how happy I am. And they have red! :D

EDIT: Any pics of the red one anywhere?
take a look at mine (http://members.cox.net/ddjackson01/Engine_During.JPG)

KeWLKaT
01-10-2005, 02:02 PM
Good enough for me. Thanks lots.



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