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Toecutter
09-29-2006, 10:22 PM
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zx2uner
09-29-2006, 10:26 PM
I love the fourth pic....your rear wheel got off the ground pretty good....lol

godd stuff!!

cobase
09-30-2006, 12:21 AM
Looks nice, but the pictures are a pretty good argument for lowering springs or coilovers. It looks like the thicker rear sway bar is really making the car lean on that outside front, which is about a hair away from rubbing the fender in the second picture. How was the balance? I've felt I can make the rear step out in reasonably fast cornering but I haven't tried autocross speeds/turns exactly. Did you manage to get any oversteer into tight corners or did it just generally plow forward?

Captain Fuzzy
09-30-2006, 02:35 AM
nice...where did you do this, i live in the NW part of WI

Toecutter
09-30-2006, 10:41 AM
I agree about the suspension. I definitely need to do something to limit the body roll. I will likely install KSports over the winter (car will be garaged). Also, even with the 19.2mm rear sway bar the car pushes really bad. I'll give it some negative camber and toe-out on the front wheels when I install the KSports, but I'll leave the rear camber alone. I want to see if I can get the rear end "happy" by lifting the throttle.

Also, for next season, it will be fitted with Azenis 215/45-16s. It is currently on Kumho Ecsta SPT 205/50-16s. This will give me more contact patch, providing the camber is correct, and allow me to get closer to the rev-limiter on the straights.

This race was at Miller Park in Milwaukee (home of the Brewers). The Milwaukee region SCCA and WAI (Wisconsin Autocrossers, Inc.) race here on a regular basis, whenever the Brewers aren't playing. There is a Tri-State club that also races here forme time-to-time.

yahoo1z
09-30-2006, 06:46 PM
i like the third one, you can tell the wheel is lifted on the other side, this happened to my elantra all the time at autox

Mobius1
10-01-2006, 11:05 PM
speaking of, there is an auto x here in Michigan at the waterford hills track. It'll be my first and to be honest i'm very intimidated at the moment. Love the pictures, hope you frame one of them. Would make for a nice conversation piece.

xxxmonoxidechil
10-01-2006, 11:10 PM
holy crap those pics are scarry..... i do road course runs at blackhawk farms on the border of n.IL, S.wis, and have never seen anything quite like that. definitly looks like a blast though.

BIGROB
10-01-2006, 11:18 PM
u have any vids??? it would be cool to watch!

A&F 01 GLS
10-01-2006, 11:28 PM
toecutter... if there is another one goin on one of these weekends... holla at me. I'd like to go to one :D

Toecutter
10-02-2006, 12:16 AM
I know what you mean Mobius, I was too, but there is no reason to be intimidated. There a lot of nice people at these events that will show you what you need to do. Once you do it you'll see how fun it really is. Have a great time, and don't forget to let us know how it went.

A&F Dude...The final event for the Milwaukee region SCCA is being held at Miller Park on Sunday, October 8th. Unless something comes up, I plan to compete again. I hope to see you there. If you are going to race, you'll want to be there at 7:15AM. Otherwise, we start running at about 10:00AM and go till about 5:00PM.

Perhaps one day I'll get a rig to do some vids, but I have other priorities right now. Mainly, learning how to turn consistent competitive lap times.

KSpec5guy
10-02-2006, 08:48 AM
Very nice pictures. I was at the Texas Fall Shootout with the DFWHyundai's guys on sat and had a blast on the autox. I will have to get some pictures from someone since my two boys had trouble taking them.

steven
10-02-2006, 08:59 AM
Look's like its a ton of fun. What kind of suspension do you have and about how fast were you going when you were taking those turns???

cobase
10-02-2006, 10:06 AM
Isn't it hard to figure out where to go in a hurry? Cones here, cones there, pointing this way, that way, all looking the same.... no?

Toecutter
10-02-2006, 12:45 PM
The suspension is completely stock right now, except for the Tiburon rear sway bar. I will be changing to KSport coilovers over the winter. As far as cornering speed, all I can say is...not fast enough.

I ran two DNFs on my first day, because I got lost in the cones. The second day was much better. There are a bunch of cones that aren't important. The pointer cones (the ones laying on their sides) are the important ones telling you what direction to go. However, the best way to do this is walk the couse several times before you race and memorize the course.

KSpec5guy
10-02-2006, 01:20 PM
We just did an autox at the Fall Shoot-out. We had a line of cars following the golf cart for course orientation. That worked pretty well.

Toecutter
10-02-2006, 03:52 PM
That's a greeat idea Spec. You get a better feel for the course if you can do it in a car. Regardless of you you do it, you have got to memorize it.

steven
10-06-2006, 08:12 AM
what mod's do you have and how fast are you running these courses???

KSpec5guy
10-06-2006, 04:07 PM
I ended up staying in 2nd pretty much the whole course except for the hairpin at the halfway point. I had to heel/toe it into 1st and then I e-braked to get the rear to swing around and then hit the gas about halfway through the skid. Not the most technical way to make the turn but it was fast. I would say I got up to almost 50mph in 2nd a couple of times. Sorry if I jacked.

SuperGLS
10-06-2006, 10:20 PM
I just saw this thread, very cool.

I've always wondered if you pick your number or if you are assigned a number?



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Toecutter
10-07-2006, 10:00 AM
How fast you run on the AutoX courses really depends on how the course is set up. Some are very fast while others are very technical, most try to get a good mix of both. I would say that in the straights (includes some slaloms), I was able to get up to about 55-58 mph just 2-5 mph short of the rev-limiter with my tire size. Cars in other classes, like STI's & EVO's would quickly hit about 65 mph and be bouncing off the rev-limiter. If I go to a shorter tire, it may be good for 2-5 mph, and it would definitely get there quicker.

Current Mods in order of importance:
Tiburon 19.2 mm sway bar
Rota Track-R 16"x7"x40mm offset wheel (16 lbs)
Kumho Ecsta SPT 205/50-16 tires (wrong for AutoX)
RRM front strut tower brace
TWM short throw shifter
Kartboy EVO IX Urethane Shifter Link Bushings
EVO Fusion exhaust
EVO Fusion 4-2-1 header
OBX underdrive pulley

Mods before next AutoX season, in order of importance:
Falken Azenis RT615 215/45-16
K-Sport Kontrol Pro Coilovers
RRM rear strut tower brace
Rota Slipstream or GT-3 wheels (16"x7"x45mm offset)

You can pick any number for your car that isn't already reserved. Mine is 927 as a tribute to my wife allowing me to get involved with this racing stuff. Our anniversary is September 27th, hence 927. However, if you get bumped to a different class and your number is already reserved by someone else, you may have to choose a different number. I don't know how this works at national events, but I imagine that many people have to abandon the number thay normally use at the regional level. Someone please correct me if I am wrong about this.