I don't mean to plug someone shamelessly, but I can't help it. This guy in Florida makes his living selling wheel and tire packages dirt cheap. He does it on e-bay. Do a searh by seller and type in the name "Rimdealer". At last check, he had 318 sets of wheels and tires on there. I bought my 17" BSA's with tires (all brand new) for 500 bucks. After shipping and insurance they were $610. The deal was outrageous, and the wheels are great quality. I will recomend this guy to ANYONE!!