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Since MCM doesn't want to make them, I have decided to to go ahead and do it if the interest is there. I don't realy have the much cash to spare to buy the tools and supplies but I don't believe in asking people for money until I am ready to ship product.

So, here is the deal. I will make both front and rear strut bars for the XD just like the ones MCM made for the front on his car.

http://www.elantraxd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1335

The difference is it won't be painted but you can paint whatever color you want or leave it raw. I will make these out of galvanized electrical conduit and if you read down, you will see how it is made so there are no misconceptions of what you get.

Now, I know it may not be the greatest strut bar in the world but MCM liked his and so did those who bought them. the other advantage is they will be cheap.

For those who post now and are interested, the price will be $20 for 1 or both front and rear for $30. This will include shipping and handling. The prices may remain the same after the initial orders, but depending on shipping price, they may have to go up. I will not know for sure until after I ship the first ones out but the prices will definately not go down.

Now, I don't want to know if you are interested. I want know that if I make these and have them ready to ship by the end of this month that you WILL be able to send the money before the end of August.

So, if you want them, please post if you want just the front, just the rear, or both. In addition, if you want just the front or rear and somebody else near you wants the same and you order it together, I will charge it as $30.

(Moderators, sory if this is the wrong forum but since it realy isn't a group buy, I posted it here.)
 

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i don't think it is a strong as i would like it. if you could make it so that it bolts to all 3 studs i would be very interested. my SR front bar isn't that strong.
 

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I will pre-order, for both, if you decide to go ahead. You know, to help offset the initial cost and all that.
 

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The idea isn't to make a stronger bar, it is to make an inexpensive bar. I don't have welding equipment to weld pieces or a cnc macine to have them made. So, if you want welded perfect bars, buy the $130 front bar and $110 rear bar from Mussa.
http://www.motorimpact.com/mxsa/01101pg.index/cPath.23_37_58_62/index.htm
Hell, even the RRM bars are not much different from the ones I am makeing but yoy will pay $90 ea for them. http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/

I am making thes for people who want a little better handling but doesn't want to spend $180 to $250 for a pair of strut bars. I already said there are better ones available, but there aren't cheaper ones.

So, if you want this design for this price, post. If you don't want it, then buy The other ones that are available and don't post.

Again, I am ONLY trying to find out who wants these bars, just like MCM made them. ONLY post if you want to buy them because it realy isn't a discussion. I ONLY want to know if enough people are interested in them so that it will cover the cost of the tools. Trust me, I am not makeing much at all on these bars. I can get 2 bars out of a piece of 10' conduit that costs close to $10 then when you ad probably another $10 for shipping and a few bucks for packing materials, my cost to make these and ship them costs $20-$25 to get a pair to you. The tools will cost about $75 to buy which means I have to get between 7-15 people interested.

I am looking for atleast 10 people to commit to buying and having them paid for by the end of August. I will not ask for money until they are ready to ship.
 

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Count me in for the front and rear bars. But I have the 2004 Elantra. Not sure if they're different from the 01-03. But I'll definately have the money ready for you by the end of August.

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Ill take one of the frunt bars, PM me with any specific details please...
 

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auto, pm me if you need any tips on how to make it go to all three bolts. I am working on my own design right now and I could send you a template if you like. You wouldn't have to weld it with a little modification, it could all be bolt on.

let me know ok?

shawn :)
 

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Ill get one if you can have it to me before I go...
 

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I would like to see a couple more people interested before i buy the tools to do this but may start with what is available.

sed, you are welcome to send stuff to my private mailbox but I honestly don't think I will change the design. It is sinple and easy the way it is and that is the way i want to keep it. I am not trying to make any real money from it, just justify the expense of buying a tool I would never buy otherwise.
 

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Come on, where are my bottom-feeding Hyundai cheapskate peers? $30 for a pair of shipped strut bars, how can you go wrong? :)
 

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im still waiting to see how this is made. . . auto, you said if we read below we will see how its made. . . is it just me or did you forget to include that info . . . dont worry im not thinking of opening a strut bar business any time soon . . lol i am just incredibly curious hgow you can get that bar to look like that out and make it work without any welding . . .thanks

by the way, sed . . can you clue me in on your design?
 

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Yup, it is prety simple and in all honesty, I realy don't care to do it since i know it won't be worth the few bucks made here or there. Even after all the stuf is paid for to make them, it will barely be profitable after shipping. But since I do have an understanding of bending conduit and people seemed to have wanted them in MCM's thread, I am willing to to do it as a sevice. That is why I don't realy care if people know how they are made or if they want to go out and buy all the tools to make them. If you add up the total tool tool cost, if you don't have the drill and other stuff, could end up costing up to a couple hundred dollars.

You need a bench vice and not some small cheap one.
You need a conduit bender
you need a drill
Drill bits (2 sizes) and you will need to periodically replace these.
a means to cut the pipe (a hack saw will do if you want to work a little harder)
A means to round the edges off after it is made (not realy necessary, but nice)

Those toools if you don't have them all could cost up to and even over $200
The conduit is about $7 for a 10' piece and only 2 bars can be made from each piece. Now, it sounds like I will make $23 for shipping 2 bars but now you have to include the packing and shipping costs which could be easily $13 (probably more) which leaves me profiting $10. Well, that sounds great, but considering I will have to buy about $100 in tools I have no need for and then if the demand becomes greater, another $100 worth of tools since the ones I have I can use won't realy work for mas producing, the first 20-40 bars I make will just dig me out of the hole, it hardly seems worth it.

But, if there is a genuine interst, I will probably do it.
 

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What's the point?

For a strut bar to have any effect, it must be as rigid as possible. Electrical conduit is designed to be flexible and bendable, not rigid. Especially with the amount of bend in the bar shown in the photo, it's going to flex like crazy. Basically, what you're going to end up with is a cheap placebo, not a strut bar. If all you want is the look, fine, but if you expect a performance difference, you're kidding yourself.
 

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Carbonman wrapped one of MCM's strut bars in carbon fibre, it was very unbendable then.
 

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Re: What's the point?

Bnystrom said:
For a strut bar to have any effect, it must be as rigid as possible. Electrical conduit is designed to be flexible and bendable, not rigid. Especially with the amount of bend in the bar shown in the photo, it's going to flex like crazy. Basically, what you're going to end up with is a cheap placebo, not a strut bar. If all you want is the look, fine, but if you expect a performance difference, you're kidding yourself.

Thats true it you use thinwall or emt, but if you use Rigid Conduit it is pretty sturdy.
 
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