I didn't read threw all the post kind of in a hurry and just had to touch on this.
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Hyundai engineers should spend a few weeks driving the competition so they might understand how far behind they are. Shifting through the gears in this car feels like stirring a straw through a convenience store slushie. Handling performance was comparable to Corollas and Civics of the 80's; while the ride was none too compliant, body control was poor, and the GT has a scary proclivity to pitch and bob in transitions. The steering also felt rather lifeless. We did come up with a neat trick to double the mushy brakes' performance; we dragged our feet out the door.
I agree 110% pushing the stock GT to the limits isn't for the faint of heart. In mid turn unless you hold the wheel straight it tends to get real bouncy and when dicing it up at least in the stock configuration is scary. The car doesn’t make the driver feel confident. I would take my rx7 around a 90 degree turn at 80mph before I would think of doing so in my Elantra. My rx7 handles like it's on rails. No body roll unless you pushing the car to its limits and it's no where near as bad as my Elantra. In fact of all the cars I have driven the only car I would have to say is worse to drive hard would be my friends 99cavy. I haven’t had a chance to ride in any Elantras with modded suspension But from what everyone says the tib sway bar helps a lot. It wouldn't kill Hyundai to do some real work to an elantra. Cut body roll by about 30% and better breaks would be a lot better. And A few extra horses wouldn't hurt either. I would like to see the car making 165at the flywheel.
I decided to make one last comment on this about the breaks of the car being one of the scariest things on the car. I don't like abs. I never have and never will. I learned to thresh hold break and feel safer with that then with abs. Now when I drive up to my moms work the speed limit is 65 so everyone does 70ish. But the yellow light time is next to nothing and a lot of red light cameras on the intersections. I have had my petal to the floor and haven’t been able to lock my wheels up. One night at the burger king I worked at i tired to lock them up but going up to about 40 then takings this little hill type thing and turned a little right to make the right side of the car get light and still wasn't able to get them locked but for a second. The breaks or at least the pads for are cars are piles of crap. I even had my dealership adjust the breaks and everything was within spec. If this was a safe guard they built in to keep people from panicking and locking the wheels up I say that’s a bad decision on there part. I like the breaks of my 17year old car and the handling characteristics of the car more then my Elantra.
But the gas mileage and cruise control are nice not to mention the working windshield wipers
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Hyundai engineers should spend a few weeks driving the competition so they might understand how far behind they are. Shifting through the gears in this car feels like stirring a straw through a convenience store slushie. Handling performance was comparable to Corollas and Civics of the 80's; while the ride was none too compliant, body control was poor, and the GT has a scary proclivity to pitch and bob in transitions. The steering also felt rather lifeless. We did come up with a neat trick to double the mushy brakes' performance; we dragged our feet out the door.
I agree 110% pushing the stock GT to the limits isn't for the faint of heart. In mid turn unless you hold the wheel straight it tends to get real bouncy and when dicing it up at least in the stock configuration is scary. The car doesn’t make the driver feel confident. I would take my rx7 around a 90 degree turn at 80mph before I would think of doing so in my Elantra. My rx7 handles like it's on rails. No body roll unless you pushing the car to its limits and it's no where near as bad as my Elantra. In fact of all the cars I have driven the only car I would have to say is worse to drive hard would be my friends 99cavy. I haven’t had a chance to ride in any Elantras with modded suspension But from what everyone says the tib sway bar helps a lot. It wouldn't kill Hyundai to do some real work to an elantra. Cut body roll by about 30% and better breaks would be a lot better. And A few extra horses wouldn't hurt either. I would like to see the car making 165at the flywheel.
I decided to make one last comment on this about the breaks of the car being one of the scariest things on the car. I don't like abs. I never have and never will. I learned to thresh hold break and feel safer with that then with abs. Now when I drive up to my moms work the speed limit is 65 so everyone does 70ish. But the yellow light time is next to nothing and a lot of red light cameras on the intersections. I have had my petal to the floor and haven’t been able to lock my wheels up. One night at the burger king I worked at i tired to lock them up but going up to about 40 then takings this little hill type thing and turned a little right to make the right side of the car get light and still wasn't able to get them locked but for a second. The breaks or at least the pads for are cars are piles of crap. I even had my dealership adjust the breaks and everything was within spec. If this was a safe guard they built in to keep people from panicking and locking the wheels up I say that’s a bad decision on there part. I like the breaks of my 17year old car and the handling characteristics of the car more then my Elantra.
But the gas mileage and cruise control are nice not to mention the working windshield wipers